Subject	Good question and very hard to answer. It probably couldn't
Posted by	RAGTPZ on May 27, 2009 at 9:29 AM
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In Reply To	Glad you're ALIVE! Do you think a RLTC would have saved you? posted by ThunderZ32 on May 27, 2009 at 09:20 AM
Message	have hurt though. With as quick as the tires broke loose and considering I was not hitting the gas very hard at all I would be willing to bet that I hit an oil spot that was just mixing with the water. Even with the tires being harder than what they previously had been, they had NEVER broken loose that easily before on any type of surface.
Follow Ups	My Z days are over, and lucky/happy to be alive.... - RAGTPZ 02:13:33 05/27/09 You're very lucky...respect the car!! I want - twinturbineZ 02:19:42 05/27/09 Re: You're very lucky...respect the car!! I want - moxie (SF) 02:29:39 05/27/09 I'm sorry..but when I want a drama queen I'll ask for your - twinturbineZ 02:58:18 05/27/09 Whatever man, that is still very tasteless and you know it. (n/m) - AbsolutZ 07:10:48 05/27/09 2nd. - Z_Cherub 08:06:56 05/27/09 I agree, it was classless - malman2100 01:02:07 05/28/09 ... - Z_Cherub 22:22:13 05/29/09 Fact is the classless comment happened here - malman2100 14:05:12 05/31/09 Unfortunately, yes... - Z_Cherub 20:22:32 05/31/09 HUGE 3rd (n/m) - collegeboy 10:44:47 05/27/09 You're retarded (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 08:16:10 05/27/09 3rd....your a complete ass. Have a heart! (n/m) - The Hawk 08:16:14 05/27/09 *Note to self* - Josher 08:41:14 05/27/09 Seriously? He even said the salvageable parts will be listed - fantomZ(OH) 08:45:40 05/27/09 a PERFECT example of the removal of shame from the - LJZTT 12:31:19 05/27/09 people have a natural aversion to vultures (n/m) - robo (sebring1970) 13:35:35 05/27/09 thanks for the fender! :/ - fantomZ(OH) 13:46:42 05/27/09 but it's reality. I had no problems with people... - SuparexTT 21:03:16 05/27/09 true. you could say vultures are a valuable part of the - robo (sebring1970) 00:00:06 05/28/09 holy moly. - Through The Eyes of the Dead 02:21:09 05/27/09 thank God you're okay - moxie (SF) 02:28:47 05/27/09 Wow - thats horrible, Glad you are okay! (n/m) - Medici (NorCal) 02:29:32 05/27/09 From how you explained everything and being able to picture - texasfan1528(MO) 02:41:49 05/27/09 oh crap man, im sorry! - Halo Z 02:47:20 05/27/09 =( (n/m) - Alan(MD/NJ) 09:22:59 05/27/09 You need to jump right back on... - forced1(nyc) 09:46:40 05/27/09 Perfect! Do it Randy :) Unfortunately I bet he won't :( (n/m) - 91Z32TT 11:46:04 05/27/09 Glad to hear you survived. - Summeronthechain (MN) 11:46:37 05/27/09 Glad you're ok. RIP to my favorite vert ever. Will be missed (n/m) - 91Z32TT 02:50:27 05/27/09 You mean your vert days are over - BobbyT 02:58:57 05/27/09 It is awesome that your vert was able to protect you - FuerGrissa 03:02:46 05/27/09 I'm so sorry to hear that Randy - na300zx (OH) 03:09:41 05/27/09 Re: My Z days are over, and lucky/happy to be alive.... - WazTTed 03:50:26 05/27/09 WOW, really sorry to hear that. Glad you are okay. I - dregos 03:56:22 05/27/09 RIP Z, glad to hear you're ok! (n/m) - Stadsport 03:59:51 05/27/09 I am still at a loss for words - SilverTwin(OH) 04:02:59 05/27/09 Thanks again buddy, you are truly one of my best friends - RAGTPZ 04:42:05 05/27/09 Tim's right; you, your Z and your stories will be missed - TT XTZ 10:03:32 05/27/09 I was very much looking forward to seeing you and everyone - RAGTPZ 12:47:26 05/27/09 Sending you one through the ether. =) (n/m) - TT XTZ 15:31:11 05/27/09 glad u survived relatively unscathed. Another Z gone. (n/m) - robo (sebring1970) 04:25:53 05/27/09 Wow - the80proof 04:30:20 05/27/09 You are blessed man. Glad to hear you are ok. (n/m) - BCs300z 04:34:39 05/27/09 Sorry to hear that, thank god you're alright (n/m) - john90zxtt(OH) 04:38:49 05/27/09 Damn Randy...Glad you are ok.. (n/m) - Pats300zx 04:49:58 05/27/09 Glad you are OK Randy! Cars can be replaced. - Mr.Stacy 05:20:13 05/27/09 You did good preventing the t-bone. Sounds similar to my - Ashman2k2 05:22:21 05/27/09 I had coilovers on, it was more that I needed new tires - RAGTPZ 05:57:49 05/27/09 Yeah, I totally understand what you mean about the tire. - Ashman2k2 09:15:23 05/27/09 Michelin PS2 and they were on the car for just about 4 years (n/m) - RAGTPZ 09:22:19 05/27/09 Hmm those are supposed to be good tires, guess even the - Ashman2k2 09:49:41 05/27/09 They were unbelievable tires up until late last year, early - RAGTPZ 10:27:22 05/27/09 so glad you're ok...... - eazyez 05:24:38 05/27/09 Sorry to hear that, but glad your ok. - Boosted1 05:24:54 05/27/09 WOW! It's always scared me when my car gets a little - phillyz 05:30:58 05/27/09 No HICAS. (n/m) - RAGTPZ 06:03:22 05/27/09 oh my, glad you're ok (n/m) - spyhunterTT(nj) 05:35:07 05/27/09 Wow, Glad to hear you are OK - RICH1 05:53:57 05/27/09 Wow! Glad you are ok Randy. - Mickie 06:07:26 05/27/09 Oh my God Randy... I can't even believe I'm reading this. - AbsolutZ 06:18:38 05/27/09 You are one lucky guy. The Z can always be replaced. (n/m) - 91z tt 06:24:13 05/27/09 sorry to hear about the Z, glad you are OK (n/m) - dpjax 06:36:06 05/27/09 Very sorry to hear but I'm glad you're ok. - EricTTZ 06:36:57 05/27/09 dang...sorry to hear. Glad you're ok (n/m) - aliaZ 06:38:22 05/27/09 Wow! Glad your okay Randy! (n/m) - Branz 06:44:33 05/27/09 I am so sorry for your loss and glad you are not badly hurt (n/m) - kkrofft (OH) 06:51:20 05/27/09 Glad to hear you're safe..RIP one of the only cars that made - xAzraelx[NC] 07:10:29 05/27/09 Randy glad you are OK....cars can be replaced friends cannot (n/m) - ImTheDevil 07:11:55 05/27/09 Glad you're OK man. (n/m) - JRH(KY) 07:16:35 05/27/09 I am very sorry to hear. I even loved that car. glad your ok (n/m) - dansz 07:26:39 05/27/09 Omg...Wow.. What a terrible loss. - eriksu9 07:28:26 05/27/09 so sorry to hear...at least you will recover okay - Ahmed (Chicago) 07:29:11 05/27/09 dang, sorry to hear (n/m) - komplexZTT 07:32:27 05/27/09 Man, I'm really sorry to hear about your car, but I'm glad - Dustin 07:43:42 05/27/09 Wow, Randy! Sad to hear about the car but much relieved - Ash's Z 07:50:58 05/27/09 Glad you're okay (n/m) - Darude (Orlando) 07:51:40 05/27/09 Wow. I'm sure that ride ruined a perfectly good pair of - SlicktopTT 07:57:39 05/27/09 So sorry to read this. Glad you walked away. (n/m) - Tu 08:01:27 05/27/09 Very sorry to hear that. I had seen many pictures of your Z - MixManMash 08:02:16 05/27/09 It was an upshift and I was not hammering the gas at all - RAGTPZ 09:38:38 05/27/09 Oh man does that suck. Very weird too. - MixManMash 11:50:10 05/27/09 I feel your pain. I hydroplaned 1 year ago. - SuparexTT 08:03:01 05/27/09 Thank you so much for the offer, but I will not be making - RAGTPZ 09:34:13 05/27/09 Doc's also "practice " medicine. But id likely listen 2 them - SuparexTT 21:14:21 05/27/09 Sorry to hear about your Z Randy, thank God your OK. (n/m) - Cap927(Boston) 08:03:26 05/27/09 First and foremost glad to hear that you are relatively - Eric(NJ) 08:04:12 05/27/09 Glad you're OK Randy. Very sorry to hear this. (n/m) - DVDBURN (MD) 08:13:50 05/27/09 Very shocking to see this this morning Randy. - fantomZ(OH) 08:14:06 05/27/09 Wow, sorry to hear Randy, but very happy you're alive (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 08:14:14 05/27/09 Damn Randy, very sorry to hear this, but very glad that you - Barry (NJ) 08:21:59 05/27/09 Time to pick up that Ferrari now I guess. (n/m) - jmt-z 08:29:46 05/27/09 glad you are ok...you have the right attitude with "it was - sawbonez 08:30:48 05/27/09 Get better soon! (n/m) - Josher 08:35:24 05/27/09 Sorry to hear the bad news, glad you're ok (n/m) - governor 08:36:42 05/27/09 Sorry to hear about the car. Very glad that you're okay. (n/m) - Guapo 08:48:22 05/27/09 Glad to hear your okay Randy. Sorry for the loss of RAGTPZ. (n/m) - ashleymac 09:02:22 05/27/09 so sorry to hear. i always enjoyed seeeing ur Z - Alan(MD/NJ) 09:08:42 05/27/09 Holy cow - very sorry to hear. Glad that you are OK. - ConVerTT 09:13:32 05/27/09 Man - very glad that you're alright overall. - Z_Cherub 09:19:04 05/27/09 Glad you're ALIVE! Do you think a RLTC would have saved you? - ThunderZ32 09:20:35 05/27/09 Good question and very hard to answer. It probably couldn't - RAGTPZ 09:29:30 05/27/09 Yeah, even the advanced VDC of the new Zs can't beat - ThunderZ32 10:45:00 05/27/09 Better tires would have most probably been the savior. (n/m) - ZiNnYc 09:32:52 05/27/09 Happy to hear that you're okay. (n/m) - zgene4 09:20:43 05/27/09 damn, sorry to hear man. glad you're okay. (n/m) - stockplayerz(nyc) 09:26:31 05/27/09 You can always get another car. Try that with a life! (n/m) - ZiNnYc 09:33:27 05/27/09 Really sorry to read this,I hope they haven't totally ended. - J-Mart 09:47:33 05/27/09 Glad to know you are fine, Randy. Very sad loss in the other - TheTwinZ (Peru) 09:55:38 05/27/09 Randy, I am so sorry to read this news! - TT XTZ 09:56:15 05/27/09 So sorry to hear that Randy. Glad your okay. - jmw23712 09:57:56 05/27/09 Glad to hear your ok. Sorry for your loss. - Harry Z 10:00:13 05/27/09 Being alive is most important. Sorry about your Z. - Alex (SoFL) 10:01:41 05/27/09 WOAH! Sorry to hear Randy. Glad you are still with us! >> - Arnel(z32racing.com) 10:02:54 05/27/09 Very glad to hear you are OK with minor injuries - awesom-o 10:02:58 05/27/09 Nooooo!!!!! Glad you're alive, buddy. Close call, indeed. - cherryz 10:04:53 05/27/09 very glad to hear you are all in once piece (n/m) - Adam (NoVA) 10:14:08 05/27/09 Very sorry to hear. Most important is that you are okay. (n/m) - Jason(MD) 10:15:02 05/27/09 Wow what a beautiful car sorry for your lose and hope for a - AndrewZ32 (MO) 10:39:36 05/27/09 Glad you are ok - collegeboy 10:41:39 05/27/09 Glad to hear you're ok, at least physically. Sorry to hear - Inzane 10:46:19 05/27/09 It is actually law here as well, for quite some time but - RAGTPZ 11:29:27 05/27/09 Nearly all states have adopted a seatbelt use law but.... - Dave N 11:34:54 05/27/09 Interesting that it still hasn't caught on (to a majority) - Inzane 11:52:12 05/27/09 I have many friends who don't do it, but I'm converting them - BigTDogg (MA) 13:44:34 05/27/09 I'll make sure you get some pics of mine so you can say to - RAGTPZ 13:53:53 05/27/09 Damn man. I am glad to hear you are alive. - Crazy Greek 11:09:47 05/27/09 im so sorry man, i had a similar situation where i flipped - mogaffar 11:19:55 05/27/09 Oh man.. Glad you're OK Randy. - Spddracer 11:23:55 05/27/09 Glad to hear you're ok. - sfarrah 11:25:50 05/27/09 Re: My Z days are over, and lucky/happy to be alive.... - merlin3 11:25:58 05/27/09 Glad to hear you're OK and relatively unhurt. - Dave N 11:41:12 05/27/09 speaking of zdayz,there seems ot be one total loss each year - SuparexTT 11:59:12 05/27/09 Isn't that the truth... :( (n/m) - AbsolutZ 12:01:21 05/27/09 Glad you are Ok, we can replace the Z and all the fancy - DrowZ(OH) 12:03:53 05/27/09 Amazing how luck can be terrible and great at once - LJZTT 12:26:26 05/27/09 Never thought I would see a post like this from you - ZXRider(SoCal) 13:19:16 05/27/09 Just thankful you're still with us. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 13:46:48 05/27/09 Glad you're OK! But you'll change your mind about the Z - Nick(CT) 14:02:08 05/27/09 Glad to hear you'r e okay!! There will be other cars... (n/m) - CRVTKLR[Phoenix] 14:39:01 05/27/09 The factory rollbar/basket handle caved as well? - RedZ 15:14:27 05/27/09 I am not 100% sure, I think everything from the rollbar - RAGTPZ 16:30:39 05/27/09 I'd definitely like to see pics, if possible... - RedZ 18:56:27 05/27/09 I will post them up when I get some, I am pretty immobile - RAGTPZ 19:12:29 05/27/09 Glad you're OK Sorry about your Z. (n/m) - z32hp*700* 15:15:39 05/27/09 happy to hear you are ok - MedManZ(TX) 15:17:36 05/27/09 Very sorry to hear that, your car was a gem. Glad you're OK. (n/m) - schuss 15:46:25 05/27/09 I never like seeing these posts . . .glad you're OK (n/m) - Z-line(ATL) 16:27:38 05/27/09 I had smiliar scary experience, but my Z slid - AZHeat 16:32:32 05/27/09 No!! Glad to hear that you are ok. - Zleepertt(MD) 16:57:43 05/27/09 Glad you're ok man! It happens. (n/m) - zfreak(Dallas) 16:59:07 05/27/09 Truly sorry to hear. Glad that you that you're okay! (n/m) - PiotrC70 17:13:03 05/27/09 I lost my 1st Z last year, may 30th. Traction Control? - icsamerica 19:43:32 05/27/09 we have a member with traction control. he drags. - SuparexTT 20:58:11 05/27/09 Sorry to hear about the Z,but glad you're OK. (n/m) - blacktwin 20:09:20 05/27/09 I'm glad to hear that you walked away. (n/m) - induetime 20:32:38 05/27/09 Glad to hear you are ok Randy..god was wtih you. - ArubaDave 20:58:55 05/27/09 Glad you are ok. Your Z was one of my favorites. - Poom (Pittsburgh) 21:11:19 05/27/09 Wow Randy... glad you're OK. (n/m) - Dallas DamonZ 21:26:14 05/27/09 Damn, rolling a vert... scary! Glad you're ok. Bruises heal. (n/m) - Ted (92TT) 23:32:45 05/27/09 Wow...it's so great that you're okay...that's all that - Only1Z 23:35:17 05/27/09 Wow, glad you're relatively OK after that - vorpalZ 00:04:09 05/28/09 Sorry to hear, Randy - glad you are ok. (n/m) - Scotts94z32 13:11:43 05/28/09 Glad you're OK!, That was a nice vert. (n/m) - 1blackz 17:41:34 05/28/09 Glad to hear you came out of it in one piece - TTFairladyZ 17:43:42 05/28/09 I'm glad it wasn't worse - Cuis-Z 14:22:02 05/29/09
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